The High Elves are the biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cucks in the realm. I find confederating other factions of other races easier by dumping 50k to 100k to their feet to confederate strong factions and demanding money from minor factions to confederate. Only factions I can ever confederate with high consistency are greenskins and norsca, cause they'll confed if you just kill all their armies. I mean you don't lose anything for killing any of them but lothern, and even then thats just tyrion. But it seems you have money concerns, so honestly the best option is probably either to base your strategy on not having those territories, or just betray them. If you get stronger than them by enough, you can throw in like 20-30k and confederate without them having 0 armies. Cause they'll never lose enough stuff to want to confederate. Honestly if you've killed their enemies, which often they have the same enemies as you so I end up doing this a lot, its really hard to confederate them. So if you can find some way to get them to suicide their armies that will often get you the confederation. If they have even just 1-2 stacks, for me at least I often need like 5 elite armies before they'll confederate with me.

If they just lost everything they have, thats usually when you can confederate them. If the ai has an army, they usually won't confederate. I have Mixu's LLs which almost every High Elf, Empire, Bretonnia, Dwarf and Lizardmen faction a LL leader which makes confederating them all my ultimate goal. Couldn't even hold their lands as the confederation sets all the garrisons to 1 hp and the tier 5 city they held got razed. They (Chrace led by Korhil) only accepted it when i paid them 50k and a chaos army was at their doorstep. What am I doing wrong? One thing tho, High Elves are cucks. I offer my entire treasury and its always the same Nope.

When I look in the diplomacy screen it says it has a moderate chance of success. Originally posted by TheSovietGator:Ok so Ellyrion right? I have Steadfast, relationship 265, Strength 21 to my Strength 5, the only thing they condem is a -1 treaty I had with Hexoatl which was to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vassalize the scaly bastards.

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